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Quote from jmartin07 on April 12, 2012, 17:29

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ABC was also down….Middle/Suburgatory are now in Old Christine/Gary Unmarried territory and not looking to hot.

why compare 3-4 years ago when ratings were higher back then? that shows you how well TM/Sub are doing…solid!

A 2.1 is NEVER solid period.

2.1 is the season low……not the avg

Irrelevent…a 2.1 is never solid and last night that 2.1 was weak…heck even Survivor was weak and I noted it…again, why are you so defensive about ABC shows? Do you have stock in them or are you just somekind of deranged individual who has nothing better to do than “protect” ABC shows?

Quote from GDfriends on April 12, 2012, 17:32

Quote from jmartin07 on April 12, 2012, 17:29

Quote from GDfriends on April 12, 2012, 17:25

Quote from jmartin07 on April 12, 2012, 16:50

Quote from GDfriends on April 12, 2012, 16:44

ABC was also down….Middle/Suburgatory are now in Old Christine/Gary Unmarried territory and not looking to hot.

why compare 3-4 years ago when ratings were higher back then? that shows you how well TM/Sub are doing…solid!

A 2.1 is NEVER solid period.

2.1 is the season low……not the avg

Irrelevent…a 2.1 is never solid and last night that 2.1 was weak…heck even Survivor was weak and I noted it…again, why are you so defensive about ABC shows? Do you have stock in them or are you just somekind of deranged individual who has nothing better to do than “protect” ABC shows?

i could ask the same for you about cbs. you defended survivor by saying the season is boring. yet when commenting on abc you want to bring back 3-4 years ago and compare

Quote from Twins12 on April 12, 2012, 17:00

Quote from GDfriends on April 12, 2012, 16:44
So much chatter for so many questionable reasons…

Idol dominated, simple as that…on Wednesdays Idol has no equal and the other nets are being squashed…yes the show is down but its holding unlike the Voice which keeps dropping.

CBS was down across the board, Survivor hitting a series low isn’t good news but the cast is somewhat boring this season, one of my faves left last night and the rest aren’t so likeable…in fact, it appears to me that the editing is off this season…where is the drama? Minds had another soft outing while CSI tumbled….WHY? The drop from week to week is very severe and makes me question why the huge drop.

ABC was also down….Middle/Suburgatory are now in Old Christine/Gary Unmarried territory and not looking to hot. Modern Family returned to a season low, while Apt 23 started out decently I forsee a drop next week to the low 2′s…a 20% drop is normal for a lot of shows so the prediction IMO is pretty safe Revenge clip show did okay

NBC is yet again a disaster…it should be named CW II. It almost appears as if NBC is doing this on purpose…like they want Weds to fail or perhaps its just SVU they want to axe? Either way viewers are getting accustomed to not watching NBC on this night

On the debate of which comedy is stronger…let me say that it is clear that BBT is the strongest comedy on right now…the biggest reason is that it beats Idol in a head to head competition and advertisers will note that while MF and Men are unable to compete with Idol/Voice. Yes the Hut levels are stronger at 9pm but that argument actually works against the 9pm shows as their demos should be stronger than any 8pm show. You also must consider the shares for each show…MF got 11 shares, BBT gets like 13-14 which is down from last falls 16 shares. When it comes down to the numbers BBT is strongest in the demos but MF wins in DVR usage which IMO is more a bad sign as DVR viewers don’t really watch advertisers commercials. Of note, MF was only .6 above Men’s series low while BBT’s last outing was .5 ahead of last nights Family.

To date BBT is the only show that beats Idol outright on everyone of their head to head battles…no other show can boast that this season, in fact both Men and Family never won a single night vs Idol or the Voice

Winner: BBT

All true, but one small correction. The Big Bang Theory is the only scripted show in the history of television to ever beat American Idol. Not just this season. That is ever. American Idol was beaten once before by the Olympics. Other than that The Big Bang Theory remains the only show to ever beat it.

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But in viewers, the ones that “don’t count”, Dancing with the stars is the first show to beat idol ever.

you have to have a reason for cbs and why they had a season low….with abc there is no reason, you just blast away

Quote from filmkr27 on April 12, 2012, 17:32

against a 2 hour block on ABC and revenge?

NBC can’t go the reality route (except game shows, more on that later) here because of American Idol. It would get destroyed. And it has tried dramas of every imaginable genre and it continually does poorly. CBS has a market on procedurals. The only thing that they have tried which showed any life in the last few years is Law and Order: SVU, Minute To Win It, Deal Or No Deal, and comedies. So family friendly game shows and comedies. I’d recommend that NBC follow any footprint on this night that has worked (even partially). This is where I’d put their muti-cams that are more family appealing and then get more adult going through the hours leading up to Smash. Smash is the type of show that isn’t going to be impacted by competition. It’s a darker musical show. Revenge/CSI won’t impact it. And I think NBC has really struggled with Thursdays at 10 PM and putting Smash there (it’s likely other potential timeslot) could really hurt it.